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dideyjohn



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:56 am    Post subject: Anthony Kilkenny Reply with quote

Does anyone have any info on an Anthony KIlkenny who was born in Ireland in the early 1800's married a Annne Charles ,, had about 7 chidren and died beofre 1901 census - I know about the children but nothing about Anthony or ANne - need some help.....
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aharney



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, done in Roscommon 1857-58
Kilkenny, Anthony County : Leitrim
Parish : Cloone
Location : Annaghmacullen

Did you have any Kilkenny's in Yorkshire in the 1890'ties?

HTH,
Ann
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Jim Irvine



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Anthony Kilkenny at Annaghmacullen is not John's Anthony. The Anthony who was married to Anne Charles was probably from Tooma. The Anthony at Annaghmacullen was married to Margaret Heslin.

However the land which Anthony and Margaret had was only about 200 yards from that part of Tooma where I think Anthony and Ann lived.

Unfortunately the parish records for Aughavas (which cover Tooma) only date from about 1843 so their births won't be found.

I think there were two men in Tooma in 1833 - Thomas and Patrick. In 1857 there were several people. Tom dies 1847 aged 76.

Anthony's son John married Mary Greenan and had several children. One of these, James (Jimmy) born 1911 is still alive and living at Tooma. He married my mother's cousin Pauline who died 1960.
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dideyjohn



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:12 am    Post subject: Anthony KIlkenny Reply with quote

any ideas where I find info on Anthony and Ann?
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John Hunter



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The LDS British Isles Vital Records set of 16 CDs list the birth of three of their children.
The births of all three were registered in Mohill Registrar’s District.
Mohill Registrar’s District include townlands in three Civil parishes – Annaduff, Cloone and Mohill.
See the Civil parish maps on the Leitrim-Roscommon website.
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/LR_maps.html
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KILKENNY, Mary Birth, Gender: Female, Birth Date: 27 Jun 1869
Civil Birth registered on page 254, of the Mohill Registrar’s register., Leitrim, Ireland
Father: Anthony KILKENNY, Mother: Anne CHARLES
Source: FHL Film 101192 Dates: 1869 – 1870
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KILKENNY, John Birth. Gender: Male, Birth Date: 2 Apr 1872
Civil Birth registered on page 296, of the Mohill Registrar’s register., Leitrim, Ireland
Father: Anthony KILKENNY, Mother: Anne CHARLES
Source: FHL Film 255852 Dates: 1872 – 1873
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KILKENNY, Susan Birth Gender: Female, Birth Date: 14 Dec 1874
Civil Birth registered in the Mohill Registrar’s register., Leitrim, Ireland
Father: Anthony KILKENNY, Mother: Anne CHARLES
Source: FHL Film 255923 Dates: 1874 – 1875
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If you check the LDS films you will find the townland of birth and occupation of the father.

Once you know the townland you can easily find:
the c1833 Tithe Applotment record,
c1850 Griffith’s Valuation,
and the change of occupiers of land from c1850 to c1920.
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LDS have filmed the baptismal records for Catholic parishes in Mohill Registrar’s District.
For further details check your local library for the Resource County Leitrim CD.

Good luck in your research.

John
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Jim Irvine



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John
I’m sure I had already sent you this but here it is again just in case.

Anthony Kilkenny m Anne Charles c 1860: The marriage does not appear in the Aughavas or Cloone RC parish records.

Children seen in Aughavas (St Joseph’s) records

Patrick baptised 27th Mar 1861
James 30th Oct 1863
Margaret 13th Aug 1866
Mary 30th May 1869/27th Jun 1869 (SRO)
John 10th Feb 1872/2nd Apr 1874
Susan 10th Sep 1874/14th Dec 1874
Peter 2nd Feb 1877


Deaths at Tooma
Bridget 7th Feb 1866 aged 65
John 2nd Feb 1893 aged 74
Owen 31st May 1878 aged 63
Patrick 2nd Feb 1847 aged 27
Patrick 4th Sep 1876 aged 65
Thomas 21st May 1847 aged 76

1901 Census at Tooma
Thomas 79, married but wife (probably Bridget Maguire) not present: Michael 30, and Bridget 28

Anne 59 (widow): James 22, Bridget 21

Catherine 68 widow: Tom 40, Peter 37, Margaret 32 (dtr in law)

Anne 26 (married husband not present) Mary sister in law 24 unmarried

John 28, Mary 26, Annie 9 months: Anne mother widow 70 (widow of Anthony Kilkenny


1833 Tithe for Tooma
Patrick Kilkenny held 4.5 Irish acres (c 7 statute acres)
Thomas held 24 Irish acres (c 37 statute acres)

Griffith’s Valuation c 1858
Tom Kilkenny held farm and 26 acres
Pat held farm and 16 acres + another 1 acre (and possibly another 15 acres at Drumshanbo North
John held 15 acres of land - no farm here (but possibly elsewhere)
Owen held a house and 19 acres
Bridget held a house and 8 acres

I suggest you get the Valuation records from the Dublin Valuation Office (www.valoff.ie). Give them the name ‘Kilkenny’ and the Townland ‘Tooma’ and they will send you a sort of history of which Kilkenny held what land in the townland over the period from c 1858 to the 1920's It will probably cost c £30 but I have found it is well worth it as you can get some idea of who passed what land onto whom.

Jim
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