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John Patrick Gillooly



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: GILLOOLY of Roscommon Reply with quote

I am in the beginning stages of research. The GILLOOLYS I am looking for settled in West Virginia after arriving as railroad workers.
They immigrated about 1840. They bought homestead farms in Lewis County, West Virginia city of WESTON.

Another branch of GILLULYS settled in Randolph County, West Virginia city of KINGSVILLE. It appears they immigrated about 1850 possibly through Canada. One of the children was born in Wisconsin.

I have found the name on census records as: GILHELY,GOLULY, GOLLULA & court records in Roscommon as GILLULY. The childrens ages are in line.

These were large settlements of IRISH.

Still digging!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John be advised the name Gilhooly and Gallogly are the same in Church records for Mohill in Leitrim . There are variations on Gihooly which you will recognize. The names are interchangable and appear side by side on Mohill Church records.God Bless
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Secret Society in Roscommon & GILLULY. Reply with quote

In the 1843 RosRoscommon “Outrage Papers” and the hunt for Landlord Slayers amid Famine
Disaster.
Introduction by Mary Lee Dunn
The documents below come from the Outrage Papers at the National Archives of
Ireland, the papers -- often police records -- related to the disturbed state
of the countryside, in this case of 1840s Roscommon. Most of the letters
concern the investigation of the murder of Major Denis Mahon of Strokestown
Park House; one concerns the killing of the Rev. John Lloyd of Aughrim for
which Owen Beirne later was hanged. Both deaths occurred in November 1847 and
some recent scholarship tends to link the two landlord murders.
The earliest letter, a deposition by Godfrey Hogg of Kilglass Parish, concerns
an event in 1843, but it contains a threat made then to Denis Mahon, two years
before he inherited the Mahon estate and four years before his assassination.
The document shows that Mahon was early a controversial figure, which belies
the picture of him given in eulogies delivered by friends and family after his
death.
These documents were uncovered by family historians Michael and Helen Brennan
of New York at the National Archives of Ireland. They were transcribed from the
handwritten originals by Helen Brennan, Mary Lee Dunn, and Seán O'Beirne. They
move forward what we know about the notorious murder cases and shed new light
as well on John McGann, one of the evictees from the crown estates at
Ballykilcline. They also reveal much about police investigations and tactics
conducted in that chaotic time. ________________
Write down, that they hope they serve God: and
write God first; for God defend but God should go
before such villains! Masters, it is proved already
that you are little better than false knaves; and it
will go near to be thought so shortly. How answer
you for yourselves? -- DOGBERRY in Much Ado About Nothing by William
Shakespeare
The “Outrage Papers”
Researched by Helen Beirne Brennan and Michael Brennan
Reference: 57653F/ 57696F69155/59190.
Rec Ju 19, 1848
Constabulary Office Dublin Castle
Roscommon
June 12, 1848
Sir
It is apprehended that a boy named Patk Hunt, at present under care of the
Police Authorities here, who can give material & important evidence in the case
of the late Major Mahon. Mr. Hunt may be induced by his relations to abscond
and I would emphatically support the prudence of placing him in _____ that he
could not be tampered with

I am
Sir
____________
Peter
Transmitted to the County Inspector
_______
Returned to Government
E. Priestly
E Priestly
20 June 1848
18 June 1848

Read and Copied, I have ordered the Witness to proceed on tomorrow the 19th
inst in charge of a sub Constable
______ Stephen Burke

18 June 48 ____

25/48 30832 ll
Roscommon
Country Galway EB
Ballygar 14th Jan 1848

I have to state for the information of the Inspector Genl; that on
Wednesday evening last John, Michl, and Barney Moran came here from the
neighborhood of Strokestown and said they were present on the road when Major
Mahon was shot; and that they knew the assassins.
I wrote to Mr. Derengy RM and DH Kelly Esq who attended here
yesterday and after examining the Father and Son separately, they took their
information against L. Thomas Kearny to be the man who shot him, and three
others who were accomplices. The Magistrates looked on the two Morans as men of
bad character. Mr. Derengy had a previous knowledge of John Moran and he did
not seem to give much credit to what he would say. However the Magistrates
directed me to have them supported and that Mr. Derengy would submit copies of
the information before he would have the accused arrested.

Bernard Cummins
__ Sub Inspector

The Inspector General

Immediate 25/12
County of Roscommon, District of Strokestown
Strokestown 2d January 1848
I have to state in reply to the annexed communication that no
informations have been sworn or depositions taken charging John Magan with
being concerned in the murder of Major Mahon.
Instruction was given to place a sharp disposable man to watch the
movements of John Magan stated to be resident “near Rooskey” and a man named
Cox (no Christian name given) “living near Yard between Longford and
Strokestown” and directions were conveyed not to arrest either of the persons
named, unless they should be guilty of some tangible offence, and in case they
were then to secure them upon that ground rather than on the plea of Murder -
There was no charge against John Magan consequently, not
apprehended.
The instructions relative to John Magan and _____ Cox was issued in a
confidential communication from head Quarters dated 19th November ’47 and
addressed to the Inspector of this County, and from whom I received directions
on the subject.

HW. Blakeney, 1st Sub Inspector
Police Report X
See the annexed
W Miller 3rd Jany ‘48

30-500
a

County of Roscommon
The Information of Godfrey Hogg
to wit of Chu in the County of
Roscommon JP A Magistrate in
for said County

Who being sworn upon the Holy Evangelists Deposeth and saith that on Thursday
the 25th day of May last two outrages as Deponent heard and believes were
perpetrated in the open day light in this vicinity viz the attacking a school
house, and compelling the schoolmistress to abandon the instruction of the
children and also of attacking the House of Mr. Dignan in search of firearms.
Deponent states he heard and believes those two parties were armed, and came
from different parts of this County. Deponent states that being a Magistrate
for the County, and anxious to put a stop to such outrages in their infancy
sought for information which he obtained, and on the following night proceeded
with a party of Constabulary, and succeeded in having two of the principal
perpetrators who attached Dignan’s House taken, and fully identified. That
this Deponent took the confession (or examination) of those two prisoners and
at the last Assizes of Roscommon when they were put on trial they attempted to
prove an alibi; which was completely broken down by the evidence of this
Deponent (in relation to their confession). That in this Deponent’s mind (and
also in the minds of many others as Deponent heard and believes and without the
evidence of this Deponent) the evidence adduced on behalf of the Prosecution
was clear, and conclusive, that notwithstanding the Jury as Deponent heard, and
believes, would not agree. Deponent further states that two of the jurors told
him that nine of them were for finding both prisoners guilty and that three
would consent to find Brislawn guilty provided that the other nine agreed to
acquit the second prisoner Gilluly*, and which Deponent believes to be the
fact. Deponent states that in his hearing Baron Lefroy expressed great
surprise as to the hesitation of the jury in finding a verdict, and in his
observations to them said, “Gentlemen if the evidence in this case is not
sufficient to procure conviction, farewell to the peace of your County which
before many months will be in as bad a state as Tipperary and on your shoulders
be the consequences.” Deponent states that notwithstanding he has heard and
believes, Baron Lefroy granted a motion, admitting the two prisoners to bail
themselves in fifty pounds, and two sureties in twenty five pounds each and
afterwards reduced the bail to ten pounds each for the sureties, that the
consequence was the magistrates were obliged to admit the prisoners to bail,
and Deponent heard and believes that in consequence partly of the observations
made use of by counsel for the prisoners, and relating to the evidence of this
Deponent on that occasion, that the prisoner Brislawn (well knowing the result
of the trial must in a great measure depend on this Deponent’s evidence) as
Deponent has heard and believes has set a conspiracy on foot to assassinate
this Deponent. Deponent states that he holds a farm about fourteen miles from
his residence to which he is obliged to resort constantly, that in the latter
end of July or early in August last this Deponent was cautioned not to go to
said farm late or early and when he did so to return by a different road for
that Brislawn one of said prisoners had several connections along the line of
road and that it was arranged that this Deponent was to be shot about the place
where the late attempt was made on Mr. Irwin’s life, and on account of the
evidence Deponent gave at the trial, Deponent states that on the 28th August
last he attended the Fair of Ballinafad at which this Deponent saw said
Brislawn in company with several other suspicious characters, that this
Deponent was cautioned not to leave said Fair except in company with the
Police, as it was intended to do this Deponent harm by the Brislawn Party.
Deponent states that he has since been frequently cautioned and warned by
several persons one of them a connection of said Brislawn as Deponent heard
that he this Deponent was to be shot, and Deponent states that with the last
week one of Brislawn’s associates as Deponent heard and believes sent word to
this Deponent that he heard Brislawn declare he would die easy if he had Hogg,
(meaning this Deponent) and Major Mahon shot, and further saith that on the
27th , Mr. Crofsley R.M. told Deponent that it was necessary for him to
mind his hours and be cautious, for that I was a “marked man” this information
was intimated to Deponent by Mr. Crofsley at Elphin in presence of Lord Lorton,
and the other Magistrates then assembled to take into consideration the attack
on Mr. Richard Irwin. Deponent states that notwithstanding all this
information and warning, the Deponent thought lightly of the matter, until the
late attempt to assassinate Mr. Irwin, and save carrying arms (until that
occurrence and since then changing his route to his farm) used no other
precaution, as also resorting to it only occasionally to this Deponent’s great
injury. Deponent states that he believes the said Brislawn, and Gilluly, to be
connected with a secret society, and that there cannot be at large more
dangerous characters, and therefore Deponent believes he cannot with safety
attend to his several duties, and occupations while they are at large.
Deponent states that he has heard that several other gentlemen in this County
are marked out for assassination, and further Deponent states and believes if
said Brislawn and Gilluly were arrested it would do much for the preservation
of the peace of this neighborhood.

Sworn and acknowledged before us this 17th day of October 1843.

Godfrey Hogg
Denis Mahon, J.P.
Thomas Conry, J.P.
common court records. Wink
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John Patrick Gillooly



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject: Great Grandfather GILLULY aka GILLOOLY Reply with quote

1880 United States Federal Census Record
Census
View Image Name: Owen Gilluly
Birth: <1821> - Ireland
Birth: 1820/1821
Residence: 1880 - Scott/ Roaring Creek, Randolph, West Virginia


1870 United States Federal Census Record
Census
View Image Name: Owen Gilluly
Birth: abt 1820 - location
Residence: 1870 - city, Randolph, West Virginia
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: gilhooly Reply with quote

hello john, interested to see another gilhooly online. you said you have just started with your tree, but can you trace them back to ireland, if so let me know i think i can help you. spent a lot of time on the gilhooly and the varients in ireland,get in touch.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: miss hooligans christmas cake Reply with quote

a little song penned in scotland last century;

as i sat at my windy one evening,
the letter man brought unto me
a little gilt edged invitation,
saying gilhooly come over for tea,
sure i knew that the holigans sent it,
so i went for old friendships sake,
and the first thing they gave me to tackle
was a piece of miss hooligans cake.

chorus;

there was plums and prunes and cherries,
and citron and raisons and cinnamon too. run out of space
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John Patrick Gillooly



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cousin I love you most dearly. I will look most dearly for your face!

But is Gilhooly and Gillooly the same within a generation or two or are they two different names.

I know the researchers say they are the same. I don't know but I question this?

Cousin,

John Patrick Gillooly
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John Patrick Gillooly



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Cousin,

Where do I go from Here? My g-grandfather on my fathers side was Timothy Goluly and g-grandmother Ann Goluly, maiden name Donahue.

On my g-grandmothers side was Owen, Odah, John Gilluly and g-grandmother Mary Gulluly, maiden name Durkin.

One of thier children was born in Wisconsin, Mary.

I can supply more but so much for now.

Cousin,

John Patrick Gillooly
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owen Gilluly was born in Ireland in 1821. His wife Mary Durkin Gilluly was born in Ireland in 1833.

Timothy Goluly was born in Ireland in 1815. His wife Anne Donahue Goluly was born in Ireland in 1816.

According to some they came from Kilgefin parish, Kilbride, Cloonfinlough and Stokestown parishes but I don't know for sure.

Cousin,

John Patrick Gillooly
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Hooligan Reply with quote

As I sat at my windy one evening,
The letter man brought unto me
A little gilt edged invitation,
Saying, Gilhooly, come over to tea.
Sure I knew that the Hooligans sent it,
So I went just for old friendship's sake,
And the first thing they gave me to tackle
Was a piece of Miss Hooligan's cake.

Chorus—There was plums and prunes and cherries,
And citron and raisins and cinnamon too,
There was nutmeg, cloves, and berries,
And the crust it was nailed on with glue.
There was carraway seeds in abundance, •
Sure 'twould build up a fine stomachache,
'Twould kill a man twice after 'ating a slice
Of Miss Hooligan's Christmas cake,

Miss Mulligan wanted to taste it,
But really there wasn't no use,
They worked at it over an hour,
And they couldn't get none' of it loose.
Till Hooligan went for the hatchet,
And Killy came in with a saw,
That cake was enough, by the powers,
To paralyze any man's jaw.

Mrs Hooligan, proud as a peacock,
Kept smiling and blinking away,
Till she fell over Flanigan's brogans,
And spilled a whole brewing of tay.
" Oh, Gilhooly," she cried, " you're not 'ating,
Try a little bit more for my sake,"
" No, Mrs Hooligan," sez I,
" But I'd like the resate of that cake."

Maloney was took with the colic,
M'Nulty complained of his head,
M'Fadden lay down on the sofa,
And swore that he wished he was dead.
Miss Dally fell down in hysterics,
And there she did wriggle and shake,
While every man swore he was poisoned,
Through 'ating Miss Hooligan's cake.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: gilhooly in roscommon ? Reply with quote

hello john, first of all do you know for sure that your family came from roscommon. gilhoolys lived in leitrim, cavan, sligo, westmeath,limerick and fermanagh ect. if you look at kilgefin for instance; griffiths valuation 1857-8 say that thomas and a dominick gilooly lived in cloonshee (connor), townland. james jr, a thomas, a william and a james lived in corry townland. thomas and a dominick lived in cloonshee(hartland). anne gilooly lived in clooncashel more. dominick lived in clooncashel.the tithe applotment books 1823-38, register a gilooly. this means there could be more than one. tithe records can be found at the. lds centres. the griffiths locations could be a result of famine movement, a more accurate source would be the parish records for cloontuskert. i just noticed the records dont start untill 1865. hope thats of some help, let me know if it is.
all the best john gilhooly
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: WHAT I KNOW AND DON'T KNOW Reply with quote

Thanks John Gilhooly for your help. I think I will come up with more info but this is what I have for now. The cemetary at LOVEBERRY, Lewis Co.,WV is full of references to Roscommon

Timothy Goluly according to the US Census of 1860 was born in IRELAND in 1815.
Wife Anne "Donahue" Goluly born in IRELAND in 1816 died in Lewis Co,.West Virginia in 1894. The name is later referenced as GILLOOLY at LOVEBERRY.

They had four sons.

PETER - born in 1846-County Roscommon IRELAND - Married Mary Dolan born 1844 in Stokestown,Roscommon IRELAND.
JOHN - born in 1855-Lewis Co., WV.
PATRICK FRANCIS - my grandfather - born in 1858-Lewis Co.,WV.-Married Agnes Gilhely aka Gilluly born in 1870 Randolph Co.,WV.-died 1899. The name Gilhely, Gollula is later referenced as Gillooly in the descended family of Agnes.
THOMAS - born in 1860 - Lewis Co.,WV.

I am trying to get more specifics for Tomothy & Anne.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, John,

The Ballykilcline Society has a rent roll from the Mahon estate in Strokestown dated 1823-24. These are the names and home places on it that may be of interest to you:

James Durkin in Castle of Leitrim
Patt Donahoe in Scramogue
John Donohy in Scramogue
Andrew Gillucy on Elphin Street in Strokestown. (This name was the nearest thing to Gillooly on the list.)

As I mentioned before, I found a Michael Gil--ly in Ballyfeeny in the Tithe Applotment Book records.

I hope this helps.

Mary Lee Dunn
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mary Lee,

I am so glad you found the name Durkin. I was starting to wonder if this was a good name however it sounded good to me.

Being a criminal investigator,"TRAINED", I have been thinking about traceing ancestry.

It seems to me when given names such as JOHN,PATRICK,FRANCIS,PETER,THOMAS,TIMOTHY,JAMES,JR.,JOSEPH,MARY,BRIDGET,AGNES,ETC. keep recurring in given family names,it is a clue as to linage. It cannot be ignored.

When you see a name such as WILLIAM,ELIZABETH,HENRY,VICTORIA,PHILLIP ETC., I think you can RULE these names out, pretty much. They are ENGLISH names not IRISH.

It seems to me a complete list could be compiled which might be helpful in research.

These are only my thoughts and are subject to challenge.
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Frequency of Given names at
Griffith's Valuation - Co. Roscommon

(Total Given names 34661)
Given name Number

John 5385
Patrick 5195
Michael 3675
Thomas 3202
James 2993
Wiilliam 1269
Mary 897
Peter 892
Martiin 867
Edward 848
Bridget 596
Owen 522
Cath. 509
Timothy/Thaddeus/Thady 439
Lucy 365
Bryan 350
Andrew 341
Henry 341

xxxxxxx
Distribution of Surnames in Civil parishes – 1749-1901
Co. Roscommon
A. 1749 Census folio #. B. Listed in c1830 Tithe,
C. Qty c1855 Griffith's Valuation,
D. Qty 1901 Census main occupier, E. Qty 1901 Census other occupiers
Surname, Civil parish, A, B, C, D, E,
Gilhooley, Kilronan, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0,
Gilhooly, Fuerty, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
Gilhooly, Kilglass, 0, 0, 2, 0, 0,
Gilhooly,Termonbarry,0, 0, 1, 0, 0,
Gilhooly, Kilgefin, 93 0, 0, 0, 0,
Gilhooly, Ardcarn, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gilhooly, Kilronan, 0, T, 27, 15, 5,
Gilhooly, Kilcolman, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
Gilhooly, Elphin, 0, 0, 2, 0, 0,
Gilhuly, Cloonfinlough, 105, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gillalee, Ardcarn, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gillholy, Kilteevan, 0, T, 0, 0, 0,
Gillhooly, Kilronan, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gillooley, Kilbride, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0,
Gillooley, Kilteevan, 0, 0, 1, 2, 0,
Gillooly, Fuerty, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0,
Gillooly, Kilmeane, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gillooly, Taghboy, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1,
Gillooly, Kilglass, 0, T, 1, 2, 0,
Gillooly, Termonbarry, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gillooly, Kilbride, 0, T, 6, 2, 1,
Gillooly, Kilgefin, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0,
Gillooly, Roscommon, 0, T, 2, 4, 1,
Gillooly, Cloonygormican, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gillooly, Oran, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
Gillooly, Ardcarn, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gillooly, Killukin (Bar of Boyle), 0, 0, 0, 0, 1,
Gillooly, Kilronan, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0,
Gillooly, Tumna, 0, T, 1, 1, 0,
Gillooly, Clooncraff, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1,
Gillooly, Cloonfinlough, 0, T, 7, 0, 0,
Gillooly, Creeve, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1,
Gillooly, Elphin, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0,
Gillooly, Killukin Bar of Roscommom), 0, 0, 1, 2, 0,
Gillooly, Kiltrustan, 0, T, 2, 1, 1,
Gillooly, Lissonuffy, 70, 72, 0, 0, 0, 0,
Gillooly, Ogulla, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
Gilluly, Kilbride, 0, T, 0, 0, 0,
Gilluly, Kilronan, 0, T, 6, 0, 0,
Gilooly, Cloontuskert, 0, T, 2, 0, 0,
Gilooly, Kilgefin, 0, T, 11, 0, 0,
Gilooly, Roscommon, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gilooly, Cloonygormican, 0, T, 1, 0, 0,
Gilooly, Oran, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0,
Gilooly, Kilronan, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1,
Gilooly, Bumlin, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0,
Gilooly, Ogulla, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0,

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